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  Author Name : Abdulwahab Mulla
 Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatullah. Establishing juma prayers in different locations is a discretionary issue (ijtihad/ijma) which is to be handled by the ulema in coordination with the Qazi. It should not be a point of public discussion. Majlis Ulema Bhatkal should take notice of its own action. The article published apparently speaks about bringing in unity, however, the very act of publishing indicates breaking the unity. I have witnessed Jamate Islami talking too much of islam and they themselves act against islam in the name of hikmat. They should not play politics in the name of Islam. We seek refuge in Allah for All Muslims from the bad politics. Aameen
Posted On : Tuesday, 03 July 2012 20:13:12 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Dr Haneef Shabab Bhatkal
 Well said Md Ghouse Syed sahib. Aap ne nut shell meN sari baat kah di.
@ Yahya kazia, bhai my ne purane zakhmouN ko kuredney ki koshish nahi ki aur aaba w ajdad ki GhalatiyouN ka koyi khulasa pesh nahi kiya. Yeh kaam to kitabeN likhney waley kar chukey haiN, mera ishara yehi tha k mazi se sabaq lekar Mustaqbil ko mahfooz karne ka piagham dediya jaye. Aap khwamakha is meN fasadi boo dhoondh rahey ho.
Allah hum sab ki hifazat farmaye.
@ editor Sahib ! meri aap se guzarish hai k merey comment k para #7 ki aakhri line delet kar deN, kyuN k mera woh jumla composing ki ghalati sey sahih tanazur meN nahi aa saka. Shukriya.
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 19:48:56 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abrarulhaque Khateebi
 بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم
الحمدللہ، والصلوٰۃ والسلام علی رسول اللہ۔ اما بعد
مجلس علمائ بھٹکل کی آواز اور اس کے جواب میں شائع ہوئی ’’جتنے منہ اتنی بات‘‘ کے مصداق اپنی اپنی رائے سے پتہ چلتا ہے کہ قارئین نقد و تبصرہ کرنے کی کوشش میں کہاں سے کہاں پہنچ جاتے ہیں۔ مسئلہ کوئی بھی ہو ہم محکمۂ شرعیہ سے رجوع کرتے ہیں اور الحمدللہ ان کے فیصلوں کو تسلیم بھی کرتے ہیں۔ بھٹکل کا جہاں تک تعلق ہے اور یہاں کے محکمہ شرعیہ ﴿دونوں مرکزی جماعتوں﴾ کا جو کردار رہا ہے وہ بڑا ہی اہم ہے۔ مجھے یہاں اس ضمن میں کوئی مضمون نہیں لکھنا ہے بلکہ صرف جناب ڈاکٹر حنیف شباب صاحب کی رائے سے متفق ہونے کا اظہار کرنا ہے۔ دوسری بات کسی صاحب نے لکھا کہ پرانی یادیں تازہ ہو گئی، اور فساد پھیلایا جا رہا ہے۔ میں یہ کہوں گا کہ ڈاکٹر صاحب نے اس میں کوئی ایسا واضح اشارہ نہیں دیا ہے جبکہ حال ہی میں اس تعلق سے آئینہ بھٹکل کے بعد اظہار حقیقت نام سے کتابیں بھی چھپ چکی ہیں۔ ان سے میں اتنی سی بات کہوں گا کہ ہزاروں سال بھی بیت جائیں تاریخ کے حقائق نہیں چھپتے ہیں۔ اور تاریخ زندہ رہتی ہے۔ بھلے وہ اچھی ہو یا بُری اس کو زندہ رکھنا چاہئے اس لئے کہ ہماری آنے والی نسل اپنے اسلاف کی پوری تاریخ سے واقف رہے۔ اگر تاریخ لکھتے وقت منفی باتوں کو چھپایا جاتا تو تاریخ اسلام بھی ہم تک صحیح ڈھنگ سے نہیں پہنچ پاتی۔ تاریخ کے تلخ حقائق کو برداشت کرنا اور اس سے عبرت حاصل کرناہمارے لئے بہت ہی ضروری ہے۔
دیگر کسی نے لکھا کہ طویل رائے انگلش میں پڑھی نہیں جا رہی ہے مختصر ہی صحیح اُردو میں پیش کر رہاہوں۔ جمعہ کا قیام عمل میں آگیا، لوگ وہاں جمعہ پڑھنا شروع کر دئے اب ہم اس مسئلہ کو لمبا کھینچ کر اپنے شہر کا ماحول خراب کر نااور بچے کچھے بھی اتحاد کو پارہ پارہ کرنا عقلمندی کی بات نہیں ہے۔ ایک بار پھر تمام قارئین ساحل آن لائن بلکہ تمام اہل بھٹکل سے درخواست کرتا ہوں کہ اس مسئلہ کو زیادہ نہ اُلجھائیں، نماز ہی تو پڑھی جارہی ہے کو ئی گناہ تو نہیں کیا جا رہا ہے۔ نماز کو ویسے ہی قائم رہنے دیں اور ہمارے اتحاد کو نہ توڑیں۔ اللہ ہم سب کو کہنے سننے سے زیادہ عمل کی توفیق عطا فرمائے۔ آمین
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 19:19:00 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abu Anas
 Dear Editor,
The subject has been discussed comprehensively, it appears that it is moved back, so correctly, from it's main pages. I feel,the discussion should now considered as complete and close.
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 18:21:15 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Muhammad Gaus Syed
 My Dr. Haneef Saheb ke jawabi khulase ko kuch hadd tak sahi maanta hun aur is masale par jahan har taraf se nizami khamiyan nazar aati hon khushgawar bahas ho nahi sakthi. Lagtha hai dastoori amal mein hamara koyi discipline nahi jis ki wajah yahan par kuch sawalaat ubharte hain jinka jawab khud hamey hi dhoondna padega.

Juma qayim karne keliye Qazi ki ijazat zaroori lekin agar kafi intezar ke baad bhi ijazat na mili tho uska hal kya hai? Aur baghair ijazat juma karne ki soorat mein Jamaat ka agla qadam kya hoga?

Agar ijazath keliye dono jamaaton mein arziyan di gayi tho kya dono Qazi saheban ka apasi mashwara hona chahiye? Ya ek Qazi doosre keliye apna mouqef qurban kar de?

Baghair ijazat juma qayim rakhna kya doosri masajid ke zimmedaron keliye ek misal banegi? Ya phir dono jamaaton ki majboori kehlayegi?

Agar juma ki ijazat Auqaaf jaise doosre idaron se li jaay tho Jamaat ka mouqef kya hoga? Kya ye jamaati dastoor ka inkar tasawur kia jayega?

Aise bahut se sawalaat apni jagah lekin yahan kuch Ulema hazrath ne Qazi ki ijazat ko hi kharij kar dia ke ye shariyat se sabit nahi. Doosri baat ke nawayat colony Tanzeem masjid keliye jo pehli ijazat nahi mili location aur aabadi ke hisab se zaroori thi. Ab yahan muamila kuch aisa hai ke naariyal thel (coconut oil) girne par rona aur naariyal girne par rona ek ban gaya hai. Asal maqsad jo bhi ho qaum mein ittihad qayim rakhne keliye zaroori hai ke juma ijazat ki sabhi arziyan maan li jayen.

Dar asal Bhatkal ka jamaati nizam baqi elaqon se mukhtalif hai jahan khilafe fitrath dono hi markazi jamaaten hain, unity in diversity tho hogi lekin qayim rakhne par zor dena hoga. Jaisa ke Haneef Saheb ne bature shaer likha “lamhon ne khata ki thi sadiyon ne saza paayi’ hamey khud se compromise kar lene ke siwa doosra chara nahi, shukria.
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 15:52:30 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Syedbapu
 Dr Shabab sahab ap se meri guzarish hai ke ap apne comments ko urdu rasmul khat me shaya karen kafi taweel hone ki wajah se engish me phdne me takleef hoti hai shukriya
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 15:47:26 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Yahya Kazia
 MR.SHABAB
EK TARAF AAP AMAN O ITTIHAD KI BATHEY KARTE HAI AUR DOOSRI TARAF HAMARE ABA O AJDAD WALI BAATHOU KO (JO SAHEE HO YA GALAT HO) AAJ KI NAYE NASLOU KE DIMAAGHOU MEIN DALNE KI KOSHISH KAR RAHE HO JO EK FASADI KAAM HAI. AAP HAMARE POORANE ZAKHMOU KO JO KAB KE SOOK CHUKE HAI DOBARA KURIDNE KI KOSHISH NA KAREY.JUMME KI NAMAZ AUR KAHAN KAHAN SHIRU KARNI HAI HAMEY BATAO SAB SE PEHLA SUPPORT HAMARA REHEGA..
MY NE HAMESHA NAMAZ E JUMMA ALAG ALAG MASJIDOU MEIN PADI HAI AUR HUM SAB LOG BHI YAHI KAREY THO MAZAA AYEGA BAJAYE AALTU FALTU LIKHNE KE....
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 14:34:23 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Syed Yusuf
 ek se zyada jumma qayim hone se koi ittihad para para nahi hota..balkey ittihad mazboot hota hai..albata qazi zyada hone se iqtilafat ho saktey hai..asal bat ye hai; bhatkal city ko chan ulamah control karte hai..; woh chahtey hai ke apni marzi ke mutabik sab kuch hoo,, abhi gulme mei bhi jumma ke qiyam ki zarurat hai.. waha par secroun ki taadat mei mazdor tabqa rehta hai...jinko namaze jumma ada karne mei doushwari hoti hai agar waha bhi ijazat di jaye, toh izz elaqey mei ek ittihad qayim hoga..hum ko furuyi masayel mei ulajne ke bajaye,,tamiri kamou mei lagna chahiye..allah hamari hifazat farmaye..
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 10:28:06 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Dr Haneef Shabab Bhatkal
 Merey comment per kuch qabil dostouN ka yeh aetraz durust hai k 1)Nikah, talaq etc. individual mu’amilat haiN, aur 2)Juma k qayam ka mas’ala poorey Shahr ka hai.
1)Pahli baat yeh k my ne who misal sirf Qazi sahiban ko shar’eat se diye gaye aur qaum ki taraf se maney gaye ikhtyarat ko wazeh karney k liye di thi. Lekin aap ko batawuN k Eidain ko chhod kar baqi kisi ma’amiley meN DonouN Qazi k muttafiqa faisaley ki Zarurat aur pabandi ka mas’ala a ab tak darpesh bhi nahiN aaya tha aur na hi uski riwayet (tradition) rahi hai.
HaN Shahr k amn o aman ya aisey hi dusrey masayil meN kabhi Kabhi mushtarika bayan zarur jari hotey haiN. Aap jo infradi ma’amilat kah rahey rahey haiN, us meN bhi riwayet yehi hai k ek qazi k faisaley k khilaf dusrey Qazi k pas na koyi appeal karta hai aur dusrey Qazi usey qabul kartey. Matlab ek Jama’at ya Qazi k faisaley meN dusri Jama’at ya Qazi dakhal andazi nahiN kartey.
2) Aur ab Juma k qayam ko sarey Shahr ka bada gambheer mas’ala banana aur uska hawwa khada karney ka reason meri samajh meN nahiN aa raha hai. Sahi hai k ek shahr me N ek Jama’at aur ek Juma pasandeeda aur Zaruri bhi hai….Lekin merey dosto….hamarey yahaN to ek Juma hai hi nahiN. Yeh bharam to kab ka toot chukka hai. Tareekhi SACH to yehi hai k Jama’ati tour per hum (awam)do dhadouN meN kab k bat chukey haiN. Is liye maan lena chahiye k hamarey yahaN Pure Unity ya khalis ittihad nahiN hai balkey Unity in Diversity yane Ikhtilaf meN Ittihad hai.
Ab aisey meN ek Qazi ki ijazat k ma’amiley ko serious issue banana, amn o aman aur ittifaq k liye khatra ya intshar ka sabab bata kar hype create karna kahaN tak sahi hai? Arey kisi bid’at ya zalalat ka ma’amla thodey hi hai… NAMAZ hi ki to ijazat di hai! Isey khamoshi se bardasht kar liya jaye to kyuN intshar phailega?
Bhatkal meN Do Juma k ba’ad teesrey ki Shuruat to Tanzeem masjid (nawayet colony) se huwi aur baghair kisi ki ijazat sey huwi thi. Phir jaisa k mazmun meN yeh haqeeqat darj hai k doosri masajid meN kabhi Ek Jama’at aur kabhi dusri Jama’at ki ijazat sey Juma shuru huwa hai. Aur yeh ta’adad 8 Juma tak pahuNch gayi. Tab se ab tak na donouN Jama’atouN ney ek sath mil baithna aur muttahida faisala karna Zaruri samjha aur na kisi ney bhi is k khilaf awaz uthayi.
Ma’amila Jama’ate Islami walouN aur SalafiyouN ka aaya to wawela khada karney wale maidan meN aa gaye. SalafiyouN ko ijazat na deney ka anjam aur hamari ijtimaiyat ki ruswayi dekhney k ba’ad, Jama’at e Islami walouN ki darkhast per bhi wahi rukh apnane se zyada behtar tareeqa wahi nazar aata hai jo k Khalifa Jama’atul Muslimeen k Qazi ney apnaya. YahaN mas’ala ek Juma ko do meN taqseem karney ka nahiN tha, balkey 9 Nou Juma Masajid meN 1 k izafey ka tha. Bus !
Is liye moujooda issue per khwamakhwa wawela karney k bajaye, jinko is ijazat ya faisaley se Sharhe Sadr, itminan aur ittifaq nahiN hai, who is ko na maneN,

Is situation per Tabish Mehdi ka kya pyara She’r yaad aya :
Mas'aley khud bakhud hal ho jayeNgey,
Apni apni hadouN meN raha keejiye !
Yeh swal k jab ek Qazi kafi they to donouN jagah arziyaN kyuN di gayiN? Is k peechey yaqeenan donouN traf sey positive jwab ki ummeed aur khushgawar mahol ki khwahish rahi hogi (warna Teen baras tak khamosh intzar ka kya matlab?)
JahaN tak donouN QaziyouN k ikhtyarat ka swal hai, merey khyal meN beshak donouN Qazi sahiban ki position bilkul masavi hai aur donouN Jama’ateN aur Qazi apne tour per aazad haiN.
Asl mas’ala to yehi hai k jab Shahr k liye jahaN Ek hi Qazi hona Chahiye tha, wahaN per “LamhouN ney Khata ki thi, sadyuN ney Saza payi” k misdaq talkh haqeeqat k tour per DO DO Qazi hoN to kabhi kabhar is tarah ki situation aani fitri hai aur ZimmedaroouN ko sabr o tahammul se isko qabul karna Lazmi hai. Isi meN aafiyat aur salamati hai.
Allah ka Shukr hai k donouN Jama’ateN ab tak (guzishta pachas saal se) aapasi khair sagali, samajhdari, nihayet door andeshi aur danishmandi se halat ko pur amn aur sazgar rakhney meN kamyab rahi haiN.
Idhar pichley kuch arsey se Muttahida Mohkama e Share’ya k Qayam ki koshish Bainul Jama’ati Council se ho rahi hai, Allah karey k ZimmedarouN ko ikhlas k sath is k liye kaam karney ki toufeeque dey aur yeh sapna bhi poora ho jaye. Aameen.
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 09:59:35 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : S M Shazir
 We are going through a sorry state of affairs in Bhatkal. If ignorant people malign each other it should not be a surprise. Surprise is when learned (Ulema) are involved in this henious prejudices. Why should it hurt somebody if a new Juma Masjid crops up, we should bear it in mind that Masjid is to unite people in prostration(Sajda) to Allah and not to devide. Why dont the hate mongers ask for a single Juma Masjid in town if thats what they want, is that possible ?
It is high time that our scholars(Ulemas) cease to be mere professional ones and practice too what they preach to others. Then only shall they rise to glory and lead others to same, otherwise they shall remain as the tools in the hands of mischief makers, without true respect and failure in this life and hereafter.
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 04:37:27 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abu Abdullah
 ajeeb hairat hai.Juma namaz par a shour hangama wawela.jaise qiyamat barpa huwi.a dar asal hamare dilawn ka fasaad or niyatawn ka khot hai.
اللهم اسلل سخائم صدورنا
ya Allah:hamare seenawn k khot ko khurach khurach kar nikaal de.
AAMEEN.AAMEEN.AAMEEN
Posted On : Monday, 02 July 2012 01:41:16 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Syedbapu
 janab muhammed gaus syed sahab / dr shabab sahab ne sahi farmaya hai jab nikha talaq ke masail 1 qazi se hal ho sakte hai to juma ki ijazat ke liye bhi 1 qazi kafi hai. masjde noor awr madeena masjid awr hamza masjid me sirf jamatul muslimeen ke 1 qazi ki ijazat se hi qiyam e juma huwa tha
Posted On : Sunday, 01 July 2012 23:23:28 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Muhammad Gaus Syed
 Hamare Dr. Haneef Saheb ne sawal kia ke jab nikah, talaaq aur virast jaise muamilat mein ek Qazi ke faisle ko maana jata hai tho juma ki ijazath kyun nahi mani jati. Hamey pata nahi ke dono markazi jamaaton ke ikhtiyarat kya hain aur kis hadd tak alag faisle kar sakthe hain. Dar asal nikah, talaaq, virasat jaise infradi/khandani muamilat ko poori qaum/shahar ke masayil se jodna behtar nahi hoga. Agar ek jamaat ko poora ikhtiyar hai tho phir juma ijazat keliye dono jamaaton mein arziyan dena kuch sahi nahi lagtha (agar yahan nahi tho wahan ka muamila na ho). Doosri baat ke Bhatkal ke baqi masajid bus naam ke siwa koyi alag pehchan se jani nahi jati jahan sabhi ulema muttafiq hain. Majlisul Ulema ki details mazmoon ke pehle posting mein nahi thi jise baad mein update kia gaya, isliye comments huwe. Majmooyi taur par ye ishara dia gaya ke juma keliye Qazi ki ijazath zaroori nahi (shayad Eidain ki namaz bhi shamil ho).
Posted On : Sunday, 01 July 2012 13:27:40 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abdul Sanan
 Hanif shabab ka comment ke har chees individual kazi karte hain phir yeh masley ko ek kazi kyun nahi? Juma tho gaav aur public issue, shabab jo quote karliya wo individual maamila hain..Aisi public issue ke liye donov kazi ka faisala zaruri lagta hai. Lekin yeh baat sach hain, millia (nawayath colony) masjid kazi ki ijazat ke bagair juma shuru huwa, kayi saalon tak permision nahi tha, baad mey diya gaya. ek maslak ke log yeh samajna nahi chahiye ke o jo chaayenge wahi hoga.. isko badawa chadawa dena nahi chahiye... hum log life mey move karna hoga, isay mazeed issue na banaeye.
Posted On : Sunday, 01 July 2012 10:47:42 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Muhammed
 Sahionline hemesha se har pehlu par gair janibdar rawayya apnata hai. bawajood iske ke article sahih hai, phir bhi is article chapne ki noubat na ati aur na chapta to acha tha .

Zimmedaroun our sab fikr ke hamil ulemaoun ko baith kar faisle lene honge. Koi ek fikr agar apne aap ko 100% sahih sabit karne ki koshis karega to is ka anjam fitna our fasad ka baees ban sakta hai. Jis ke zimmaedari har fariq par jaati hai.
Aaur agar koi kehta hai ke samne wali party fitna ya intishar ki sabab ban rahi hai, to sahih nahi hoga.
Posted On : Sunday, 01 July 2012 03:32:10 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Dr Haneef Shabab Bhatkal
 Hamare shahr me DO Muttafiqa Markazi Jama’ateN haiN. DOnouN k apne Mohkama’e Share’a haiN. DOnouN k apne apne QAZI sahiban haiN. YahaN k Musalman apne Nikah, Talaq, Warasat, aur deegar Ma’amilat o Tanaz’at meN kisi ek Jama’at aur us k Qazi sahib se ruju hotey haiN aur problem solve hojatey haiN. Koyi intshar nahiN, koyi wavela nahiN.
Magar Yeh ajeeb situation hai, k ab ek markzi Qazi ki taraf se di gayi ijazat k sath qayim Juma ki Namaz per swal uthaye ja rahey haiN. Jab mazkoorah Qazi ka padhaya Nikah, Talaq, Tasfiya sab durust hai aur UnheN apney tour per faisaley karney ka Sharayee Haq hasil hai to unki taraf se di gayi Juma ki ijazat per kisi ko swal uthaney ka kya haq hai. Yeh kahaN likha hai k har mas’aley meN DONOUn QAZI sahiban ka ek hi faisala hoga to hi durust.
Jaisa k sabit hai k is se pahley isi Bhatkal meN baghair kisi Qazi ki ijazat se, aur kabhi ek hi Qazi ki ijazat sey Juma ki Namaz shuru ki ja chuki hai…aur ab usey man bhi liya gaya hai…to phir sirf Salafi aur Jama’at e Islami per kyuN objection ho raha hai???
Yeh jo kahtey haiN k Salafi aur Jamat e Islami Group bandiyouN ki bunyad per MasjideN aur NamazeN qayim kar rahe haiN, to ek seedha sa swal yeh hai k kya shahr ki baqi tamam masajid kisi khas Fikri, maslaki, aur Jama’ti ghalbe aur Shiddat se bilkul pak haiN?... Iska imandarana jwab “NAHI” hoga.
Yeh jo swal kiya jaraha hai k Majlise Ulema kab qayim huwi?, is ka jwab to article k end per Editorial Note meN clear cut de diya hai. Raha swal mazmoon nigar k nam ka, to Majlise Ulema k ZimmedarouN k nam bhi diye gaye haiN. UnhouN Shahr meN chal rahi gumnam ishtihar bazi se hat kar apne mouqaf ko infradi k bajaye ijtimayi tour per zimmedari k sath pesh kiya hai to responsibility / accountability bhi collective hogi. Akhir is meN kya burayi hai.
HaN my is baat se ittifaque karta huN k jab Jama’at e Islami walouN ko itminan hai k unhouN ne koyi ghalati nahi ki, aur namaziyouN ko bhi koyi problem nahiN hai to phir chand “ZimmedarouN” ya “NadanouN” ki ishti’al angezi aur sharat ko base bana kar yeh mazmoon publish nahi kartey to achcha hota. Print media meN koyi mukhalifana mazmoon aata aur jwab me yeh sab likha jata to is ki zyada ahmiyat hoti.
Khair ab jab Juma qayim ho chukka hai, to phir kisi bhi taraf se isko charcha aur bahs ka mudda na bana kar isey mouzu ko khatm kar dena hi aqlmandi hai.
Allah tamam aafat se hamarey shahr ki hifazt farmaye. Aameen.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 20:55:41 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Syedbapu
 alamu alikum/ qamar sahab ne sahi farmaya khe 1 qazi chaye wo kisi bhi jamat ka q naho jab mhtaram qazi sahab ne ijazat di to tamam bhatkal ke afrad w ulamaye kiram ko tasleem karna chahiye lekin afsoos ke qazi ki bad bhi ahmed saeed ke juma par wawela karna awr awam ko badzan karne ki koshish karna bahut hi galat bat hai goya ham qawm ko phir se taqseem karna chate hai is tarah 1 qazi ki tawheen bhi lazim ati hai /sahilonline ne mazmoon sahya kar ke hamari ankh khol di hai fiqah ke hawale se hme bahut sari maloomat hasil huwi awr ye masla saf huwa ke juma 1 se ziyada maqam par jaiz hai bhatkal ke ulama q sakhti karte hai samajh me nahi ata hai alla ham sab ko muhabbat se rhne ki tawfeeq naseeb kare ameens
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 20:22:51 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Shaikh Zakir
 aslamwalikum , tamam muslim bhaiyoo se meri azizana darqast hai ki tamam k tamam muslim bhai quraan aur sunnat ko apnaye, nake firqa bandi, warna ummat me bigad ayega, jazakallah,
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 19:53:06 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abdul Basith
 Dear Editor,
maharbani karke Allah ke liye, aise mazamin publish karke aur iske uper favor/against me comments shaye karke ummat me ikhtilaf paida karne ka zarya na banaiye.. apko awwami satah par dono tarah ke comments millenge, magar iska result apas me ikhtilaf aur dushmani ke siwa aur kuch nahoga.... Bhatkal me alhamdulillah Ulama karam moujood hai auR ye mazmoon bhi mashallah MAJLISE ULAMA ki taraf se hi shaye huwa hai... kya hi accha hota ke isko paper ki zinat banane ke bajaye apas bhet kar ghalat fahmiyoun ko dur kiya jata... agar bilfarz koyi ek fariq apni bat par ada rahe to dusre fariq ko Ummat ke ittihad ke khatir khamoshi ikhtiyar karna chaiye.. Ap dono masjidon me mashallah Juma shru hogaya..ap is par bahas karke apas ke intishar ke siwa kuch hasil na hoga... Ulema karam ham se bhetar samach sakte hai....... ALLAH HAMARI HIFAZAT FARMAYE AMEEN
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 19:22:45 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Ibne Abdullah
 Beautiful article.. Thanks for publishing it. Media has to play positive role all the time on the issues which is more discussed by common masses of the town and it remains all the time burning and hot issue in the group of
ulemas as well as the elite group or the dignataries of the cummunity.


Daraasal baat ye hai kay bhatkal mai jumaa kaa maslaa naam nihaad ulemaa (Kuch) ki anaa kaa maslaa hai.
Aap ye mat samjho kay jo log iski mukhaalifat kartay hai wo log qaum kay ittihad aur ittifaaq ko laykar muklis hai.. Hargiz nahi..! Bhatkal kay har idaarau aur anjumanau par sirf eak hi maktabe fikr ki zahniyat
rakhnay walau ki ijaaaradaary (monopoly) inkaa aham agendaa hai. Masjide ahmed saeed kay zimmedaaran mubarak baad kay mustahiq hai kay unahau nay bahut hi soch samajh kar pooray sabr aur sukoon kay sath, qaum kay ittihad ko baaqi rakhtay huvay qazi ki ijaazath
kay saath qiyaam e jumaa kaa faislaa kiya.. allah talaa is iqdaam ko munaafiqeen aur shaaatireen kay shar say mahfooz rakhay. ameen
Eak Jumaa kay izaafay say konsaa badaa farq padhnay wala hai.. Aur phir masjide ahmed sayeed kaa mamlaa hi alag hai.
Inkay zimmedaaran hameshaa umaat ko muttahid karnay keliye pesh pesh rahtay hai. Inkay stagau par hameshaa har jamaat kay
afraad ko aap dekhengay jo bamushkil dusri jamaatau aur idaarau ki taraf say aap ko dekhnay ko milegi.
Baharhaal sahil online mubaarkbaad kaa mustahiq hai.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 18:20:24 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Qamar Mohtisham
 Ye jaan kar behad afsos huwa ke Qazi ki ijazat ke baujud chand zimmedar log apni manmaani qayim karne aur dusri jamat ko apne se kamtar prove karne ki koshis kar rahe hain. Mujhe lagta hai ke 2, 1 log apne asli naam ke sath coment dene ke bajaye farzi namo se aur alag alag namon se dekar apne ap ko badey tees maarkha samajh rahe hain. Qazi ne agar ijazat di hai to har musalman par farz hai ke wo koyi chu wa chara kiye baghair us par amal kare. Ye Abdulla, ibne Abdulla, Nufail waghera shayad Qazi sahban se bhi badey aalim honge jo Apne shaher ke Qazi ki baat ko thukra rahe hain. Well done Sahilonline, qazi ki mukhalifat karne walon ko isi tarah be-naqab karte rehna chahiye, bhale wo qazi kisi bhi jamat ka kiyun na ho.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 17:53:51 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Sajid Ahmed
 Assalam walikum. myre bhaeyo ye jo jumma ka masla hai.ye ulama-e-kram ko acchi tarha samajna chaiy k hamara BHATKAL kitna bada hai. 50 sal phyly se ay calta huwa araha hai k 2 ya 3 masjid my namazy jumma adaki jay..main dubai my rehta hun yaha par amne samne 2 masjidun my namaz huti hai kiya yihan par namaz nahi huti ? kiya hiyan par ulama nahi hai ? ay choti si baat ko ager ulama byet kar hal kary tu aaam loog bhi samjh jayangy,ager ulama hi is masly ko mirchi masala lagayngy tu aag bujne k bajay pihr bhad kay gi. allha hamsabko muhabbat aur bhaichargi ky sat rhyni ki tawfiq ata kary.
chingariyun ko ab koi pagal hawa na dy.
shola tu jysy husaka humne bujha diya
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 17:32:44 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Syed Mohammed Raqeem Sm
 Unity Comes From Consensus, Not From Compromise.
Those Who Are Against The Juma(Friday Prayer) In Masjid-e-Ahmed Sayeed And Masjid -e- Bukhari is just for Vested Interest.

Thank Sahil For Publishing.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 17:28:51 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : S A Jukaku
 Aisa pehli baar sunne me aya hai ke Bhatkal ke ek Qazi ki ijazat ke baujood chand logon ko Juma ki namaz padhne par aiteraz hai. Kiya Juma ki namaz keliye ek qazi ki ijazat kaafi nahi ?
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 17:17:38 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abu Mohammed
 Thanks S O for the well informative article, full of facts and figures which we were not knowing before. JAZAKALLAH
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 15:45:33 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abdullah
 Editor saheb aapko aise mazameen shaye nahi karna chahiye jis se mulk me intishar ka khatra ho sakta hi keu ke har 1 gurub apna apna jhanda uncha karna chahata hi qaum ki isla ki kisi ko fikir nahi qaum kis had tak giri jarahi hi uska kisi ko fikir nahi har koei apni apni me mast hai
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 14:06:35 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Muhammad Gaus Syed
 Itna arsa guzar gaya lekin Juma keliye Qazi ki ijazat lene ke muamile mein Bhatkal ke Ulema hazraath ne apni raay nahi rakhi. Kabhi is par amal zaroori samjha tho kabhi baghair ijazath ke elaqayi dabau par Juma qayim huwa. Kya iske pehle ulemae karam ijazath naame ke sharyi usool se waqif nahi thay? Aur agar ijazath ki zaroorat nahi thi tho abhi tak itna dabau banaye kyun rakha? Ab jabke Ahle Hadees aur Jamate Islami ke zere nigrani masajid mein Juma ka masala aaya tho Ulema hazraath ne bolna shuru kia.

Dar asal Ulema hazraath par jamaati ya infradi kisi tarah ka dabau nahi hona chahiye kyunke unhen sharyi zimmedari uthani padthi hai. Aise mein dono markazi jamaaton ka faisla eksan na hona (ya basoorate digar hona) ek galath ishara deta hai. Mazmoon mein pesh ki gayi daleelon par aam musalman jo deeni masayil se nawaqif hain apni raay de nahi sakthe lekin dono markazi jamaaten zaroor ghaur karen. Jumla taur par agar dekha jaay tho hamari sab koshishen na-munasib waqt par ho rahi hain jo mazboot ittihad keliye sahi nahi. Readers log comments karne se pehle sochen, kahin agla mazmoon kuch aur hi naqsha pesh na kare.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:55:08 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abdullah Jubail
 mozmoon padhne se hi maloom hota hi keh a sirf hi sirf jamaate islami ka hi mauzoo hi asal me mauzu ko bar bar chedna hi dusraun ko uljhana lagta hi raha masala musjide haram aur musjide nabawi ka jo hazrat waha gaye hi o khud jante hi keh u musjid me hujum ka kis qadai kasrat hoti hi aur waha par koei kisi maslaki ki wajah se apni apni musjidaun me nahi jata har koei masjid dhundta hi raha masala bhatkal ka waha per koei musjid nahi dhundta balke apni musjid talash karta hi taadat ki kasrat se admi pareshan hokar musjid nahi banata balke masajid ko gurb me taqseem karwata hi ye sabse badi gumrahi hi allah ham sabaun ko is door kare warna juma ke liye ladne ki zaroorat hi nahi aur jo khitab likh kar apna naam majisul ulama diya hi a bhi koei tareeqa nahi hi koei 4 6 aalim milkar o bhi 1 hi gurub ke aur apni zati masle ko halkarne keliye ulama ka nam dena a konsa taqaza hi zara gaur kare allah haafiz
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:50:49 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Nufail
 editor sahab apka kia khayal hai aisa mazmoon shaya karna chahiye jo logoun ke samne la kar wavela horaha ho jis tarah bahutoun ne apne apne comment likha hai main moulana jafar sahab se kahunga ke logoun ke comment pad kar bataye ke koi bhi is mazmoon se sehmat hai? har koi kehta hai ye majlisul ulama kab ijad huwi..... ek sawal
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:38:54 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Jauhar Damudi
 India ek secular muluk hai, yahan par har mazhab aur har aqida rakhne walon ko apne apne taur par ibadat karne aur zindagi guzarney ki ijazat hasil hai. Aisey muluk me Jamat Islami ke log ya Salfi ke log Juma ki namaz padhna chahte hain ya kuch aur program rakhna chahte hain to iskeliye Hukumat ka Auqaf maujud hai. Wo agar ijazat deta hai to kaafi hai. Albatta hamari koshish ye honi chahiye ke ham apni Jamaaton aur digar idaron ka support apne sath lekar aagey badhen.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:18:46 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : G M Afeef
 Hamarey Ulama-e-kiram badey badey bayanat aur khitabaat dete hain ke Ittihad qayim karo, ittihad qayim karo... magar khood ulama hi ikhtilaafat ka shikar hain. Muluk ka padha likha musalman muttahid hokar rehna chahta hai, magar ulama ke apasi jhagdon ki bijli aam musalmano par padh rahi hai.

Mere khayal me Ulama agar apne apasi ikhtilifaat ko khatam kare to Muluk bhar ke musalman ek hosaktey hain. Aj ulama ki wajah se hi har taraf masley khadey ho rahe hain. Ulama-e-kiram ko khud sochna chahiye ke Woh Qiyamat ke din Allah ko kiya jawab denge ? Bhatkal ki baat karen to aisa mehsoos hota hai ke yahan ke Qazi bhi chand ulama ke pressure se pareshan hain. Aur ye kehna baja hoga ke 3 se 4 ulama Purey Bhatkal ke ulama ko control karke purey Bhatkal ke musalmano ko control karney ki koshish kar rahe hain.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:05:56 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : J K Bhatkali
 Masla jumme ki namaz ka nahi hai aur ijazat dena bhi badi baat nahi hai mager is ki zamanat koun dega ke aise log kal aur koi masla khada nahi karenge ? ab bhi waqt hai hamare pass aise logou ko samajhne ka aur barabar samjhane ka...shukriya.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:03:43 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Fathima Syed
 Aaj hum apne chhote masail ke liye ek dusre per la'an ta'an kar rahe hain, lekin hame apne mustaqbil ki koi fikar nahi.......

Allah ke liye apne faroi masail aur ikhtilafat se parhez karte hue aane wali naslon ke liye security ka kuch intizam karen
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:07:30 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Ibne Mohammad
 Please read fatwa of bin baaz.
According to him, holding jumaa prayers in more than one masjid in a city is allowed only if one masjid cannot accommodate all people or people have great difficulty in coming to one masjid.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:37:52 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abu Anas
 Assalamualaikum,
JB Editor sahab, mere khayal meiN yeh masla hassas hai aur is par mazeed ghour hona chahiye. Ise ulema hazrat ko hi tai karna hoga ke kahan namaze Juma kiminazat ho.
Aap ka nashar karda mazmoon balanced aur source se supported nazar ata hai, ise bajaye GROUP OF ULEMA ke nam se shaya kiya jaye, behtar hota aap ek nam se mansoub karte jis se accountabity clear rahati. Aap janteiN haiN ki yeh Journalism ka norm hai.
Chunke, aap ka maqsad aam rai banana hai, is liye, behtar hota ki aap is mazmoon ko donoN jamatoN ko aga karte, is request ke sath ki woh apna mousuf SO ko tahriri tour pe deiN, take tamam fariqoN ke cookers sath meiN nashar hote, jis se aam admi ko poori baat samajhne meiN asani hoti, aur aap par janibdari baratne ka ilzam na lagta.
Ummid hai aap is par apna comments readers benefit ke liye zaroor shaya karenge. Diagar fareeq ki baat ko bhi itne hi importance se Page One par shaya karenge.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:23:19 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Saifuddin Akrami
 aj tarqi yafta dour mai jahan abadi bhdti hi jarahi hai ek se zaid juma koi masala nahi raha hai wosate- nazar aur osate -qalbi se iman wale soche to ye eshaaate-din k zamre mai bi aata hai rab ki awaz rab k bandaun tak pouche sahid hidath ka sman hao. yah olmaun ka kam zaroor hai khosh aslobi se masle ka haal talash kare; awam ko made-nazar rakhte howe.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:48:21 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abdullah
 Editor Saheb, aap kisi jamat ya kisi sakhsiyat ki tarjumani nahin Karen aur mutanzia masle par mazaameen (bina mazmoon nigar ka Naam zahir kiye) shae nahin Karen.

Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:50:45 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Mohammed
 Yeh Majlisul Ulema Bhatkal kab bani hai? aur is ke zimme dar intizamia kon hain, main Moulana Jafer Faqqibhaw se kahunga zara iski wazahat karen? aur yahan masla taddud -e- Juma ka nahi balke group bandi ka hai, Juma ki ijazat di jasakti, lekin group bandi ki nahi. Allah hamen samajh ata kare/
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:35:21 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Mohammed Sameer
 k m ismail sahab ne bahut achi bat kahi.. is maslay ko aam long main lana aqal mandi ki bath nahi hai. ye masla douno jamat ke qazi sahban ulama karam aur
zamedar hazrat mil kar suljaye. warna bhatkal ke musalmanao mein sadiou se apas mein mohabbat aur ekjahti ki misal hai wo kahi nahi milti wo katam hojaye gi...aakir is ki waja kiya hai bhatkal mein namaze juma ki ijazat jaldi nahi milti?
...mere kayal mein bhatkal mein namaze juma har us jaga maujoud hai jaha abadi aur fasile ki lihaz se hona chahiye ...mein samajtha hou har wo ilaqa jaha juma ka qiyam hota hai wo masjid bhari nahi hoti usme our musalyou ki gunjayesh hoti hai...ap ne kaha saudi arbia mein 4 minut aur 10 minut ke fasile par namaz juma ka qiyam hota hai ye dubai mein bhi hota hai ye abadi ke hisab se munhasir hai waha
par masjed bhari hoti hai log sadkou par namaz ke leye khade hojate hai waha par aur koi gunje
yesh nahi hota...
...bhatkal mein filhal iski zarurat mahsous nahi hoti hai pehle salifi hazrat ne bad masjid Ahmed Saeed mein namaze juma ka qiyam aur najane ayenda kiya hone wala hai...hum allahtala
se dua karte hai apas mein muhabat aur sahi samaj ata kare amin...
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 00:57:52 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Ibne Abdullah
 Barahe karam is article par logoun ke comment shae nahin Karen
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 02:31:30 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Shawlameed Maleka
 MERE KHAYAL SE IS MAZMOON KO YAHAN SHAYA KARNE KI ZARURAT NAHI THI.HUM MEIN KYA HUWA THAH AUR HUM MEIN KYA HO RAHA HAI MAZMOON NIGAR NE SAARI DUNIYA KO BATANE KI KOSHISH KI HAI JO EK QOUM KE WAFADAR,IZZATDAR,AUR DINDAR INSAAN KA KAAM NAHI HAI.YE MAZMOON BILKUL EK TARFA HAI AUR AISE MAZMOON SHAYA KAR KE KOI AUR HANGAMA KHADA KARNE SE BAHETTER HAI KE AISE MASLOU KO HAMARE QABIL ULAMA E DIN PER CHHOD DEY....
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 01:59:11 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : K M Ismail
 Dono fariq ke apne apne dalayil hosakte hain, lekin is maslay ko aam long main lana theek nahin hai. Ulama khud hi apas may faisala karlain aur aam logon ko is bahas may shamil na karian, is se apas main bugz ziyada hoga.
Posted On : Saturday, 30 June 2012 00:20:46 IST  Report Abuse
  Author Name : Abdul Jaleel D
 Aap hazrat ne masjid Ahmed Saeed ko Jamate Islami ka brand de kar us mein Jumma start kia ... ke ye masjid Jamate islami ki hi Aur ismen zaroor Jumma hona chahye...Warna wahan par Jumma ki zarurat ko mahsoos nahi kia gaya tha. Esi tarha Sulfi masjid mein bhi jumma isiliya shuru kia gaya ke ye salfi masjid hi. Yahan par jumma zaroor hona chahiye. Yahan par bhi jumma ki zarurat ko mahsoos nahi kia gaya....
Posted On : Friday, 29 June 2012 23:50:51 IST  Report Abuse
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